INTERPOL Meeting on Cultural Property Looting in Iraq
6 May 2003, Lyon, France
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by Ronald K. Noble,
Secretary General of INTERPOL
Thank you, Mr. Attorney General.
Most of you have been here for two days and have heard several references to
the important work of INTERPOL. Few of you outside the police community probably
know exactly what we do and how we do it.
The International Criminal Police Organization's, INTERPOL's, core mission
is the deceptively simple sounding task of providing the widest possible assistance
among criminal police authorities around the world. No constitution binds us.
What we do, we do on a voluntary basis. We have a system that uses "Notices"
originally issued in paper format, but now issued in both paper and electronic
format. These notices are sent and received by our National Central Bureaus
(NCBs)- our lifeblood if you will. These Notices alert Member Countries, for
example, about fugitives; about missing persons; about people whom the police
are investigating. When a country receives an INTERPOL notice, it is free to
act on INTERPOL's request from another Member Country to arrest that person
or to not act on the request. This system of voluntary cooperation permits us
to remain a diverse but highly functional organization.
A related function for our NCBs is to send requests and offers of assistance
on police matters. Some 10,000 messages pass through our NCBs each month. This
permits great cooperation on significant international crime. Besides alerting
Member Countries about dangerous people or crimes, we develop specialized projects
in drugs, terrorism, and sexual exploitation of children over the Internet.
Our goals always focus on fostering international police cooperation while respecting
the rule of law and human rights.
These ideals, which have existed since the founding of the Organization more
than 80 years ago, are enormously difficult to achieve in practice. We have
181 member countries. Our Member Countries' police officers speak hundreds of
different languages, though INTERPOL has 4 official languages (Arab, English,
French and Spanish). We come from different cultures; we are trained in different
legal systems; and we follow different police procedures. Even though we share
a common profession, this degree of diversity can put serious obstacles in the
way of the co-operation that we are supposed to foster.
Despite these impediments, INTERPOL succeeds time after time in achieving its
goal. When the 11 September attacks occurred, we issued the first international
notices on some of the leading figures in that attack at the request of the
US, Egypt, Germany, the UK, Spain and Italy. Similarly, our working group meeting
this week is a remarkable example of the ability of police services, professional
experts and private concerns from around the world to set aside small concerns
and to respond quickly to a crisis.
You, the participants in this conference, are responding to the call to restore
a nation's treasured heritage. That ranks as a worthy objective.
It is astounding to recall that we first heard reports of the looting of cultural
treasures in Baghdad only three short weeks ago. In that brief time, INTERPOL
reacted quickly by sending personnel to assess the situation in Iraq, by making
resources available on our Internet website, and by setting up this multidisciplinary
conference. The aim of this week's meeting is to define a comprehensive international
strategy for identifying cultural treasures looted from Baghdad and returning
them to their rightful homes.
Since 1947 INTERPOL has been working in the area of the recovery of stolen
works of Art and Antiquities. Since the 70's we have published "INTERPOL's
Most Wanted Works of Art" twice a year. And, we have had a surprisingly
high success rate. Over the last 30 years we have recovered about 2 items per
publication. We have recovered priceless works of art from Romania over 30 years
from the time those thefts were publicized on our flyer. It is important that
traders in stolen works of art or antiquity never be able to sleep comfortably
thinking that INTERPOL has forgotten. INTERPOL never forgets, and INTERPOL will
devote whatever time it takes to help recover stolen works of art and antiquity.
We currently have a database of 20,000 items. Although we have experts here
in this area, one must remember that few police forces around the world have
experts in this field; so our database must be very user friendly. INTERPOL
has learned lessons about stolen works of art that are worth remembering today.
I will touch upon a few of them now.
First, the quality of the police's effort to recover stolen works depends in
large part on the quality of the information that we have about the cultural
property in question. For example, following the first Gulf war, INTERPOL received
inconsistent, incomplete and often inaccurate information about the cultural
property allegedly stolen then. Iraq had no pictures to provide us, and despite
a constant effort at improving the quality of information, we were able to enter
only 1 reportedly stolen item in our database. It was a stone head of a woman,
and it was recovered 2 years ago in the UK.
This working group must come up with a process for ensuring the accurate collection,
storage and reporting of data concerning the looted property in Iraq. Right
now we are operating on rumors and anecdotal stories. INTERPOL supports the
roles of UNESCO and the International Council of Museums in helping to develop
a database of what was supposed to be in Iraq; what actually was in the museums,
libraries and archaeological sites and what is there now.
Second, INTERPOL's experience has been that stolen works of art and antiquity
are generally recovered in the country from which they were stolen. This might
sound counter-intuitive, but this has been our experience. So far, many of you
gathered here today who are considered experts in this field believe that the
same might be true with the reportedly looted cultural property from Iraq.
Third, INTERPOL deals most frequently with the National Central Bureaus of
INTERPOL Member Countries. They are our mechanism for receiving and sending
information. Unfortunately, in Iraq, there currently is no INTERPOL National
Central Bureau. There is no national police force. Unless immediate steps are
taken to re-create such a bureau, we will lose valuable opportunities for sharing
of important information. Italy has offered to host a police operational meeting
in this regard in Rome and since INTERPOL is being asked lead this effort in
the area of international police cooperation, and I have invited the former
Commissioner of the Australian Federal Police (Mick Palmer) to attend this working
group in order to give us his guidance on this important issue.
Fourth, in working through the problem of recovering looted cultural property
from Iraq, we should rely on experts from diverse backgrounds such as those
gathered here today. INTERPOL has a contribution to make, and we will make a
contribution. We have two of the world's foremost police experts in this area
right here at INTERPOL Headquarters. Mr. Jean-Pierre Jouanny from the French
National Police Force and Mr. Karl Heinz Kind from Germany's BKA. The commitment
of these two individuals is so great that Mr. Jouanny came out of retirement
to help us with our effort to recover looted Iraqi cultural property. INTERPOL
plans to produce a special Most Wanted Works of Art Flyer for Looted Iraqi Cultural
Property. We also plan to ask our National Central Bureaus and our Member Country
police forces to designate police officers to form a Special International Task
Force based in the Iraqi region. We will generate a Project Plan and give countries
of the world an opportunity to contribute to a special fund designed to help
police recover looted cultural property from Iraq and to help re-establish and
connect to our global communication system, a new INTERPOL National Central
Bureau in Iraq.
Finally, I close with a point that I know the Attorney General and all the
experts in dealing with crises know. It is very common for the first information
following a crisis to be wrong, and when I say wrong, I mean wrong. So, let
us all try to be responsible in how we speak about this issue until we know
the facts, and let us dedicate ourselves to gathering the facts as expeditiously
and efficiently as possible.
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